Misinterpreted Visions of the Future: A Theory about Episode 9


WARNING: Major spoilers for The Last Jedi.


In The Last Jedi (TLJ), three different characters have visions of the future: Rey, Snoke, and Kylo. Of the three visions, I believe only Rey and Snoke’s has actually happened, albeit not in the way they expected. Kylo’s vision has not yet come to pass, but I think that it could provide a major hint about Episode 9.

Rey & Snoke’s Visions

During one of the many “Force Skypes” that Rey and Kylo have during TLJ, Rey has a vision of Kylo’s future. According to Rey’s interpretation of this vision, Kylo will turn to the Light Side. This is, ultimately, how Rey justifies her decision to leave Ahch-To to Luke:

“If I go to him, Ben Solo will turn.”

Moreover, when talking to Kylo aboard the Supremacy (Snoke’s ship), Rey says the following:

“You will not bow before Snoke. You will turn.”

It because of this vision (as well as Luke’s refusal to leave Ahch-To) that Rey believes Kylo is “our last hope.” However, Rey’s interpretation of her vision is not accurate. While Kylo indeed does not metaphorically bow before Snoke and instead turns against him, Kylo does not turn to the Light Side. So, I think that Rey’s vision was accurate, but misinterpreted.

The idea of prophecies being misinterpreted is not new to Star Wars. In Revenge of the Sith, Yoda wondered whether the Chosen One prophecy that predicted Anakin would destroy the Sith and bring balance to the Force was misunderstood:

“A prophecy that misread could have been.”

Of course, Anakin did, eventually, destroy the Sith and bring balance to the Force (at least temporarily) . However, it happened much later than Yoda, Qui-Gon, and Obi-Wan expected. So, the prophecy was correct, but was misinterpreted.

Similarly, Snoke also has a vision of the (immediate) future that he misunderstands, but that turns out to be accurate:

“I see him turning the lightsaber to strike true. And now, foolish child, he ignites it and kills his true enemy.”

So, Snoke is absolutely correct that Kylo is turning the lightsaber to strike his true enemy. However, what he doesn’t understand is that he is Kylo’s true enemy, and Kylo is turning the lightsaber to kill him!

In summary, both Rey and Snoke’s visions of the future do come to pass, just not in the way they were expecting it to.

Kylo’s Vision

Like Rey having a vision of Kylo’s future, Kylo also has a vision of Rey’s future:

“I saw something too…When the moment comes, you’ll be the one to turn. You’ll stand with me.”

Now, after Kylo tells Rey about this vision, there’s nothing in the film that I think could be construed as Rey standing with Kylo. True, Rey helps Kylo dispatch with Snoke’s Praetorian Guard, but I’d hardly call that “turning.” Furthermore, Rey clearly rejects Kylo’s offer to join him, which is the opposite of her standing with Kylo.

Of course, it’s certainly possible that no part of Kylo’s vision will come true. However, given that a version of Rey and Snoke’s visions came to pass, I do think that Kylo’s will too eventually. But, in keeping with the theme, it won’t come true in the way Kylo thinks.

Kylo believes that his vision means that Rey will turn to the Dark Side in order to rule the galaxy with him. This is why he is surprised when Rey ultimately turns down his offer after they dispatch with Snoke’s guards. While it’s possible that this vision means that Rey will turn to the Dark Side in Episode 9 and form an evil duo with Kyo, I doubt it (though it would be interesting, and would fit with the trilogies alternating having the bad guys win and the good guys win. Instead, I think the vision means that Rey will ultimately stand with Kylo at the end of Episode 9, but she’ll do so because Kylo has turned somewhat away from the Dark Side.

A Too Early Theory about Episode 9

One of the biggest themes of TLJ, for both the Dark and Light Side, was letting old things die. For example, Kylo tells Rey that he didn’t hate Han Solo, but had to kill him in order to become independent and fulfill his destiny.

“I didn’t hate him…Your parents threw you away like garbage, but you can’t stop needing them. It’s your greatest weakness…Let the past die. Kill it, if you have to. That’s the only way you can become what you were meant to be.”

Similarly, after taking much verbal abuse from Snoke in TLJ, Kylo thinks that it’s time for his decrepit master to go, which is why he literally splits him in half. Kylo has no use for old things:

“It’s time to let old things die. Snoke, Skywalker, the Sith, the Jedi, the Rebels. Let it all die.”

When Kylo Ren says “I will finish what you started” when he is talking to his grandfather’s charred helmet in The Force Awakens, perhaps this is what he meant. Darth Vader/Anakin Skywalker destroyed the Sith, as well as most of the Jedi. Maybe Kylo wants to finish up the job and start the galaxy on a clean slate. With him as Supreme Leader of course!

The idea of old things having to go is not only held by Kylo, but also by Luke in TLJ. After researching the flaws of the Jedi Order, Luke shockingly says:

“I only know one truth. It’s time for the Jedi to end.”

How does this all relate to Kylo’s vision? Well, I believe that if Rey does join Kylo, then it will be to create a new philosophy of the Force distinct from the Jedi Order of the prequel trilogy and the Sith. Perhaps for there to truly be balance, there needs to be harmony between the Light and Dark sides. Put simply, only an alliance between Light and Dark can truly end the cycle of destructive conflict and bring peace to the galaxy. An alliance between Rey (light) and Kylo (dark) might fit the bill. In this case, Kylo’s vision would come true in the sense that Rey would join him, and she would “turn” to a certain extent, as she’d be pivoting away from the Jedi and towards a grey area between the Light and Dark. Obviously, this isn’t how Kylo interpreted his vision though, and so this would fit with how Rey and Snoke’s visions turned out.

Would Kylo actually turn away from the Dark Side and join Rey to bring peace to the galaxy? Seemingly, he had a chance to turn away from evil in TLJ and join Rey, but he decided not to take it. Perhaps this means Kylo has fully gone to the Dark Side? This is certainly possible, but there are, at least, two key pieces of evidence in TLJ that suggest there is still good in Kylo.

First, when Kylo is given the chance to murder Leia, his mother, he can’t pull the trigger.

Second, Kylo clearly has feelings for Rey, and is desperate for some kind of human connection. When trying to convince Rey to join him, he says:

“You’re nothing. But not to me. Join me. Please.”

The “please” at the end of this is said by Kylo with desperation. Given that Kylo’s parents shipped him off the the equivalent of boarding school, Kylo believes that Luke wanted to murder him in his sleep, Snoke is verbally and physically abusive towards him, and Hux would gladly kill him if given the chance, Kylo has no close relationships with anyone. He literally has no friends. Given this loneliness, I think Kylo is desperate for human connection, and will join Rey in Episode 9 to get it. Rey seems to understand and sympathize with Kylo, and this could be enough to turn him away from the Dark Side. Kylo got a glimpse at what human connection and love is like when he touched Rey’s hand, and I think he is going to want more in Episode 9.


By the end of TLJ, Luke and Snoke are dead. This means that in Episode 9, it’ll be up to Rey and Kylo to blaze their own trail. The prequel trilogy ended with the Dark Side triumphant and the Light Side devastated. The original trilogy ended with the Light Side triumphant and the Dark Side devastated. Perhaps this sequel trilogy will end with the Light Side and Dark Side united in true balance. This would be a new and exciting development for Star Wars, and would tie the three trilogies together thematically. In JJ we trust!


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